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Postby wnordmann » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:37 am

I've contracted Innovations the company that makes the 16g CO2 most people used for portable keg chargers. I was quoted a case of 50 - 16 gram non threaded cartridges for $ 1.25 each plus shipping. I don't think shipping would push the price over $2 a piece, but I'll check before the final order.

If there is any interest I'll get more info and likely order a case or two.
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Postby wnordmann » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:41 am

Never mind.
From amazon a 30 pack is $38.95 shipped or $1.30 a piece
http://www.amazon.com/Gram-Unthreaded-Cartridges-Food-Grade/dp/B0016KSJ9W/ref=pd_sbs_misc_3
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Postby Bentk » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:49 pm

Have you gone to look at wal mart in the sporting goods. The portable charger that I got works with paintball type co2 things. like 7-8 bucks for 15. It breaks down to about 50cents a peice.

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Postby StLBeer » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:49 pm

There's still that whole FDA approved food grade CO2 thing....
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Postby wnordmann » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:22 pm

The amazon ones are listed food grade.

Part of the problem with the Wal-mart variety is that 12g canisters are smaller than the 16g ones requiring some extra messing with to make work.
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Postby StLBeer » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:42 pm

I'm in for 10 cartridges if there's room.
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Postby Benjamin R » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:21 am

Use care. I bought some from SLB&W a while back that the neck was slightly too large for the gun. Some of you prob recall my posts about it. You might want to verify if possible before you place the order.

Can't recall if I posted this or not, but they swapped them out for the correct ones when I brought them back several weeks later.
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Postby dblue » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:44 pm

FYI, there is no fiddling needed to get the 12 gram cartridges to work. The threading on the Innovations chargers goes down far enough to get a good seal with a 12g cartridge. I've used them for a while now. They have 50 packs at Sports Authority for $25, probably can be found cheaper elsewhere.

As far as food grade goes...I'm sure they're not...however the place I used to get my 10 lb tank filled didn't have food grade CO2, and I never noticed it affecting the beer...that's not to say there's no difference.

To be more clear, these where the Crossman brand 'standard' sized 12g cartridges. Same used in Paintball and Pellet guns and other small devices using compressed CO2.
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Postby OldTree » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:31 pm

One of our gas-perts might chime in here. I seem to recall seeing that there is no such thing as "food-grade" gas??

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Postby dblue » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:25 pm

You may be right, here's what I found in several places:

"There are at least two different grades of CO2 available, (I found
out during a similar problem) Food grade, which is used in soda
machines and such, and commercial grade, which is used in some
welding applications from what I can tell. The food grade is what
you want.

The only difference between these two grades of CO2 is that the
bottle that it comes in. Both gases are 99.97% CO2, the food
grade bottles are internally glass coated, whereas the industrial
cylinders are straight steel.

The reason that there is a difference, is that by law, the food
systems have the possibility of back-flowing into the bottle
when the gas runs out. If the bottle was a standard industrial
bottle, the system would have the possibility of becoming
contaminated with rust from the internals of the bottle. (CO2
disolved in liquid from beverages is quite acidic and rusts the
inside of gas cylinders. "
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Postby StLBeer » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:16 pm

Bump

Bill, did you ever buy the 30 pack from Amazon? If so, interested in selling some of them?

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Postby wnordmann » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:21 pm

Yeah I got the 30 pack but they didn't match the neck size as the Genuine Innovations canisters used in the charger. I contacted the company and they'll send new ones that fit correctly. So it'll be a few more weeks before I have everything. I'm still interested in selling off 10 of them.
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Postby StLBeer » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:23 pm

Great, I'll take the 10 off your hands.

I just priced these at the bike shop - $3.99 each....
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Postby dblue » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:09 pm

FYI, I ended up getting a 25 pack of the Crossman 12g cartridges at Sports Authority for $14.99. They work great. Just another option.
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Postby beergoggles » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:13 pm

dblue wrote:FYI, I ended up getting a 25 pack of the Crossman 12g cartridges at Sports Authority for $14.99. They work great. Just another option.

Yeah, if you like drinking oil.


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I need to get some of those from you.
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